CDFW's 4/15 Meeting to Hear Public Comments on Fishing Delays

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Okay. So this is part three of that three part series.

This particular

episode, they they basically open it up to general comments from the public.

And, again, they're you know, they're... That this was...

Concerning suspending delay in or restricting,

sport

and recreational fishing in California to Covid nineteen. They open the floor to anglers like ourselves.

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Hey, guys. It's is Mark Smith. Can you hear me? Come good morning, Mark. Congratulations. You're on.

Hallelujah.

Apparently, I'm old enough to be technological technologically challenged now. So, I apologize.

Thank you for working with me.

So, I do wanna echo the comments that other members of efficiency community you've said, by the way, I'm making these comments on behalf Northern California Guides and Sports

Association. I know that James Stone, the Executive Director was trying to get on as well, and I'm not sure if he'll be successful.

I think we want to start by thanking the commission and the department for

recognizing that leadership starts at the top and that

communication and clarity are key.

I think that we all recognize that, the community had a much better understanding,

after what happened last Thursday about the intentions of the commission and the department moving forward. And so again, want to commend the director,

Human to President, the staff and others who worked so hard communicate with us as representatives of the fishing community to help get the word out to others.

I think we want to acknowledge a couple of points. The first is that

creating

solutions for some counties is going to

inevitably caused problems for other counties. And by that, we are concerned about a pressure shift. We've seen this with the inland fishing on the Sacramento river and the tri.

We saw this with Ocean Salmon and it was one of the reasons why the Salmon advisory sub committee made a recommendation to the P to delay the season opener

when the ramps and other opportunities for access are being closed it divert that focus to other places

Rightly, or wrongly, I've heard people talking about stay at home orders and restrictions sustained within your own county. I think we need to recognize that there is going to be travel as both attempts to do outdoor recreation.

And that is just a reality that we need to live with and the fact is that that these actions are going to cause unintended pressures in other places. So to that, we have several questions.

We recognize

today that there are three counties that are requesting closures.

When staff comes back and provides comments later, we'd like to ask

what the process will be for other counties moving forward.

And the opportunity for the public to participate in those

conversations relative to those counting if they make those requests.

Second, we'd like to ask for

clarification on a process for resolving discrepancies

between any directive coming from the governor's office

and individual requests from specific counties

related to

stay at home

access to outdoor opportunities, I believe that as we move forward,

and the governor has started to talk yesterday about what the next steps for the state are,

that there will start to be discrepancies

between regions and the state. And I think it would be helpful for the director to provide some clarity on how we're going to resolve those discrepancies.

Finally, we put this in our letter and this is not the appropriate time in place to get into it entirely, but we do remain concerned about the delegation of authority from sufficient gain Commission outside of its body to other jurisdictions. In this case, the department. We recognize that the pandemic

is something that we've never experienced before. We recognize recognized that these are

unusual times. We also recognize that we could be back in a situation in the fall in the winter

when we're talking about doing something like this relative to hunting.

This could be a seasonal virus, this could be something that we go through.

I'd really appreciate some thought and some attention from the commission and the staff as to

how to deal with this the next time that comes around.

We encourage the commission to retain its authority vested in it by the constitution and the appointments provided by the governor in each of you,

to be the end all be all the determining factor of these decisions. Again, thank you for the time and the opportunity to speak today and,

really appreciate it.

I wanna make two comments. One is we're gonna limit each speaker to one minute, we'll be timing that and we'll we'll ask you to stop at one minute and cut you off if you keep going. And the total amount of time, unless any other pictures wanna raise their hand and suggest that we do a greater time. The total time is five five hours with the number of speakers in line. We won't get anywhere near that. But we are limiting the total time to five hours, which begins right now at, eleven fifty.

Alright. So, Lauren, please don't unmute the first speaker. Okay. Kate Cross in San Diego.

Okay. I'm I'm glad you got to go. I'm glad you got to go first congratulations congratulations congratulations and to thank so much your patience. And thank you guys for doing this meeting. You know, I can't thank you enough for letting us have our voices heard.

My concern is that although the meeting is mainly about the trout season, the outcome could have the potential to shutdown fishing everywhere, whether fresh water or salt water.

San Diego has already completely banned us from fishing. The closure can be viewed on the Port of San Diego website. We can't fish for food on any of the waterways.

In fact, my husband and I can't even take our boat that we live aboard out. To go to the ocean and fish.

San Diego County has closed the harbor and our access to the ocean. We're completely self contained to go out and catch your own food. It would be much safer than going to the supermarket and exposing ourselves to other people

and the poor cashier years,

but it's not really working out very well here.

Henry Kissing once said, whoever controls the food supply controls the people.

We're already hearing about shortages or disruptions in the Us food supply chain

particularly in the meat industry. Folks will meet the fish.

Our local and state officials must not prevent people from feeding themselves.

Please don't restrict our bill ability to fish.

We really don't want the government to to take care of us. Thank you so much.

K. Thank you. And thank you for your patience. I just wanna answer your question because you were so patient and in waiting for us. Yeah. Local ports are not under the fishing game nor the Department of edition Wildlife

jurisdiction.

In general, our goal here is to allow it as many people

fish as safely as possible and we wanna encourage local authority to do the same when it doesn't interfere with proper social distancing. And I wanna let the director bottom at alignment and what hear yourself. K. Yes.

For one

additional detail

as an example,

the ground fish sport efficiencies season and,

I did open April one,

certain parts of the state.

And

damage management

decisions are proceeding

or

polling openers,

and that's occurring at the federal

level

at a federal account.

Thank you for your feedback.

Yes. Thank you thank much. Appreciate your call. Next time please.

Lauren, please. Thank you. Yes. This Corey. Sacramento. I was calling.

Hello, You didn't get Corey. Please. Go ahead. Thank you for joining us.

Thank you. Yeah. The part of my concern here is other states open they're fifties early, and I see a pretty more from, like, previous color markers stated that with he ban it and some counties are stopping at in some counties that they're pretty people to the other counties. And so you're really not slowing or stopping the spread. He's gonna let's scan the spread.

People want it is essential if people see their families again, like the previous car the state... And they renegotiate it that, you know, people need to see their families. That is part of essential leaving.

You know, it is the domestic violence calls, the

increased depression calls and stuff on the outlines we're getting worse because people can't get out and enjoy themselves. Well, when you're out fishing, I I don't know anyone that really sits more than six foot

apartment fish fishing. I mean it's pretty hard to cast the pull or or, you know, hook somebody if they we stand a little closer than that. So this is this is something to me that is it is far fetched. Yeah. I understand it's only for a few counties. But at the same time I see it is probably gonna extend the other county. If we allow this to continue. And it's something that really shouldn't. You know, I'm sorry for those counties and they feel that they may have a problem controlling because they don't have enough staff for So,

but that's also up to the county to then you know, mandate or get that staff to do so. As I... Know, other cities and Counties are actually changing their staff that just got some people sitting home to put them in vehicles to to assist with it the other

enforcement or people don't to notify the public, you know, six foot distance and and help keep people at home. So please please not not limit these counties and and do not

prolong the fishing. Actually, it'd be great if we followed other states like Philadelphia Vermont so forth, where they actually increased or we're opened early for people to fishing and provide further damage. Thank you. Fred, Laura, this is James Stone. Can you hear me?

Mister Stone. We can't hear you. I'm glad you made it through. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Thank you very much. I've been trying since the beginning,

a, presence Clark, commissioner, staff, as well as department staff. Thank you very much for the communication since the past mission meeting, we really appreciate

all of the dialogue to try to put out the correct back to the fishing community.

I think that, unfortunately, with social media and how fast that rumors can spread a lot of

misinformation was put out there. And so we wanna thank the department for putting out the fact sheet and for clarifying exactly the intentions of this emergency meeting.

We also wanna thank a commission for not just doing a right closing the entire state and painting it with a broad brush. We we appreciate you... You guys not go in that direction.

Recreational fishing as you know as bio from the outdoor recreational community, and a lot of people can still get outside while properly social distancing team and enjoy the outdoors through fishing.

We do respect the surgical

approach that the director and the certain county, the requesting and taking on a county by county basis

strictly due to board of supervisors or public health officials announcements

rather than just trying to do an alt right closure.

As you know as well, our fishing guide community was deemed none essential on March sixteenth by the governor's order, and the guiding community is hurting like many other businesses right now, and it's spiraling down a a tube that we don't know if we can ever recover from.

We appreciate any clarification on that in the future, and we also would make recommendations of the department to continue with fact sheet weekly if not, bi weekly, that could at least.

And now what waterways

are currently still open and and and and are not closed because the misinformation out there causes a lot of confusion and then causes rumors that you're gonna shut down the entire state. We appreciate everything you're doing and thank you very much for this time.

Thank you, mister Stone. Next caller, please.

Marilyn and Jasper public interest coalition, we totally support authorizing director bon to make proposed critical decisions as needed to stay ahead of

potential problems,

instead of too late reactive

in order to protect not just locals, but all people.

That said, to avoid enforcement nightmare

and

increased risks to wildlife officers

if areas are closed,

the order must apply

equally to all,

no exceptions.

Any exemption for groups

organizations local or other reasons will compromise

both the order

as well as safety for all of us. We greatly appreciate the commissions taking this responsible action. Thank you.

Thank you for calling me in next speaker, please. Good afternoon. This is Stacy Heat from the Rural County representatives of California. Can you hear me okay?

Yes. We can. Stacy. Go ahead, please.

Alright. Great. Thank you. We represent thirty seven Rural County Statewide and you've already heard from a whole bunch of our members today, so I won't

go on too long, but I just wanted to, back up and so court those three counties that have made this request. And also, I believe Sierra County has made a similar request as well. I have their letter and I can forward that to you if you don't have it on file.

What our

request in support of this is to be on the request of the local government as we've seen to the four county so far

to allow director bottom to work with these local governments. And if any other local governments have difficulties in the near future

write these counties. Some of these smaller counties. They just don't have the capacity

to deal with a lot of outside residents coming in for the upcoming fishing season,

and, you know, they don't have the... Neither the staff nor the financial ability to deal with this. And

we support their request and wanted to make sure that as we've spoke up on our behalf. So thank you for

undertaking this today. Thank you.

Great. Thank you very much. Next speaker, please.

Hey. My name is Zach Pierre. I was just calling. I would like to to agree as Ever... Most everyone, I believe with

the fact that it should be county by County.

Being in the military. It's not as easy to pay for food. We have discounted food, but the same time in order to actually save food or money,

it is easier to go fish.

And I believe one other car said it it... While fishing, normally speaking,

you're not right on top of others.

So

you can...

Or practice your social distancing thing while fishing and

fear fishing whatever kind of fishing you wanna do, you can maintain social distancing.

And still be able to effectively fish.

Great. Thank you, sir. Appreciate your time. Next speaker, please. Okay. Great. My name is Dennis. As I live in bought Porto,

Blue County.

I live a hundred feet from the river,

logged this twenty miles stretch of river that opened up in April four.

And just to say, I yet to see there are been beside myself on there.

I do use it full food.

Anyway,

I think everything's been discussed about,

also a distancing in the counties that need to close. And,

my main thing is, I think people are coming, you know, the the travel.

Ban. I mean, you know, stay at home isn't being listed South like those is a good example.

The thing about it is you have thinking it out to the people. If I go to

Google and I do California camping campground,

and there four hundred pages about how the state campground grounds in the state to in the State park are lot in the state state state states.

Very, very few people know that the National Court campground are very few. If you wanna... You can't stop people from traveling. They're gonna do it. But many you can discourage people with all the campground. I think a massive media push

saying everything's closed.

The campground clothes, the boat ramp for clothes, the motel are closed. Everything is closed, please don't come. No one knows that the asshole force.

Campground are closed. You have to go to each individual site and ac. Click on the campground

at lake Davis that you wanna go to before you run into is closed.

Massive media, people

in the Bay area don't know that the not so before campground are closed.

The average person. So they come up for her with her trailer,

and their motor home, and then there's a old park on a dirt road somewhere.

You just have to get the word out. You know,

it's closed.

Anyway, I think you guys are doing a good job. And I think surgical

is gonna be good, but that's all I have to today. Thanks.

Next speaker, please Go ahead, sir.

Good morning.

Morning.

Hi. My name is Sean Nash, and I would just like to inform anybody trying to get into the queue,

just to let you know that you have your raise. Once you press pound two, it should come over the speaker and let you know that your end is raised.

I know some people around me were trying to get it and it wouldn't come up.

I would just like to start by saying good morning for the members of the board. And instead of sitting here and complaining and adding problems to the situation. Instead, I'd like to propose some solutions that would benefit both parties of the argument.

I'm proposing that all commercial recreational and saltwater vessels be allowed,

continue to fish as they provide the safest of distancing being isolated from the public. And to address all others such as peers lakes. And both private fisheries, both fresh freshwater and salt,

maybe we should put in place a minimum safety distance between anglers that could be pun punishable if broken. And require that all anglers wear protect protective face masks at all times.

As a prior trout hatch... Hatch worker myself. It would not only hurt the hatch, if fishing has been closed,

because hatch cannot continue to produce fish, if dish are not caught, bought and sold. It would leave a backlog of problems that would only hurt hatch and stock lakes in the long run.

Private hatch trees,

stock over thousands of lakes in the Northern and Southern California areas and are not effectively equipped.

Stalled sales for this long, and we'll have extraneous amounts of die and backlog that will affect private lakes for many years.

Again, I'd like to thank everybody for my time, and I'd like that off.

Great. Thank you very much. Next speaker, Lauren.

Thank you, sir.

My name is Bob Smith, and I live in a,

remote remote rural area of Swallow County, and I just wanted to comment. I think people are focusing too much on

the

The social distancing of actual fishing itself and not thinking about the travel aspects that go into this.

Our local market here is small, very tight. There is no social distancing possible, the gas stations,

have

small restrooms available,

everybody who drives up here,

from, more urban areas are stopping at each one of these locations.

And with the potential spreading

this virus. And so it's not just about social distancing on a river, which is easy to do, or, on the ocean on your boat. It's about social distancing when you are traveling and the exposure you're putting on these rural counties,

and that's all I have. Thank you. Good. Next speaker, please. Hey. This is Ike go

team Fish gang, San, California.

Well, being that everything is still open and, I understand where you guys are coming from all the closures in most, certain counties.

Here fishing as far as all the peers that are closing within San Francisco in the Bay area,

will we know when they will be reopening those or as that part of what the government's plan is the governor's plan I'm sorry.

Thank you. So we'll what we'll get to that and, when we wrap up a nick caller, Lauren.

Hi. This is Aaron Now was calling in from San Diego.

I do wanna highlight that it sounds like we got forty people in queue.

We did have about four hundred call last week. So technical difficulties is are probably part of the issue.

If you guys need to shut down three counties to protect the people up there. I understand that but change the emergency order to say that. We're in San Diego, our rights have been taken away I can't take my boat from its slip out to go fish. I can't take my son out of the house to go to to do that and social isolate.

Once you lose your right, they're gone. They're hard to get back. I understand it's gonna expire May thirty first, but there'll be a agave extension after that. Please

As you said, surgical focus this where it needs to go, which is those three counties and nowhere else. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Next speaker, please.

Hello. My name is Steven Both. I'm calling from Orange County, California.

Can you hear me?

Yes. We, sir. Go ahead, please. Hi. Go ahead. Calling to... To disagree with what the state's proposing an in the D proposing. Like the last caller, I've been lockdown after for six weeks already. We cannot fit. We cannot go to the ocean and surface fish. We cannot get on a boat to fish the peers are closed, the jet that closed, the local lakes are closed. The strings are closed. If this is not fair that the D is considering closing fishing for all Californian

because a couple small cities decided we don't want visitors.

And like we heard their their politicians speak earlier in this meeting. They don't want

visitors to come and fish. It it should be left open to the locals they... But they bought all means don't step on their rights. Just stop on the right of those flat lenders down there that that are disease. And wanna come up here to the mountains. This this is...

I absolutely in insane. The state of California has told me, I cannot I cannot provide for my family, you can only go to state approved store and by state approved goods when they're available. I don't know about the rescue. I've been to the store three times in the last month. There was no meat. There was no chicken I was four your. One minute is up. Love to let you wrap up if your like.

Okay. And. So, please, don't do this. This isn't fair to all Californian.

And and and it would be nice at the Ds or might be able to get

the low...

Direct about it but say we're.

And so

I said

theme

some of the come

and instead of waiting to the end to address questions,

I would just say,

as to the ocean,

in coastal counties,

the department has not closed

fishing in the ocean.

And

aspects of access

in the coastal zone, are local decisions, tears,

arenas

ports.

Those things are not

included within

the proposal in front of the commission today.

In fact,

in the ocean, the ground season is open

the

original

opening date of Salmon was moved back just thirty days.

But shortly, we will have additional information out to the public.

About all of the

upcoming openers

relative to Salmon recreational in the ocean

and confirming those dates.

So some of the frustration we made here in this call

may more likely be about

access points that are really subject to local jurisdiction,

not the commission nor the department, certainly not in the proposal

presented this one. Thanks.

Thank you Congrats. Next speaker, please.

Hello?

Yes. Go ahead, sir.

Hey they're sorry to pull over.

I guess for the most part, but I would have been saying already been covered in a great way. So I guess, it's to endorse my process that I think it should be county county.

I think I fixed a lot of issues shutting individual ones down.

Altogether, I don't think would be very effective in long run for, you know, recreational fisherman or the fish species in the themselves.

Pretty much all I got. Everything else has been reiterated.

Thank you, sir. Next speaker.

Go ahead, sir.

Ma'am. Hi hey. Jake Vince calling from San diego California. Thanks for hear me out for my one minute.

But I have no voice to the help line. I had to click it six times before picking, so keep trying in the help line is nobody's getting through on the help line it's automated in the backlog. I just wanna talk real quick on public trust.

You guys do.

I think you're gonna lose a lot of it and bi that I means ban and Pushing for, any of the counties

concerned or anybody outside of. The ability to do so. Not granted you. Under at the California

constitution.

Specifically, article alarm session twenty five. All fisheries have not been closed true as you've many had mentioned, a precedent is being set here with a lab voice the board

that that municipalities is that likely used and they're finding

to justify farming that they make within their county such as San Diego.

This local is only attitude is, is garbage, my parents for likely better word. You know, we can fish our waters, that you guys can't, meanwhile, those locals have the ability to go travel and see their loved one and come back infected and still spread the disease. Don't worry.

I'll find Neo while I will not put a dime of money into your economy in the future.

But I do want the ability to fish my California waters it's guaranteed to me about the constitution. That's all I have thanks.

Thank you, sir. Next speaker, please.

Hi. Can you hear me?

Yes. We can. Go ahead, please. Hey. Alright. Thank you. That my name is Greg Holt. I live up in Plaza County.

I don't wanna repeat what People said about people named food.

County governments are already restricting or barring access to phishing, phishing sites and being able to get out there and do that. This request moves the burden of responsibility from local lack of officials. To an una elective state agency. So I would suggest that you leave local governments to enforce their local

regulations.

They're already in contact with the constituencies.

I think it's gonna damage the trust between anglers and hunters

and the department of efficient Wildlife.

If you assume this responsibility and authority. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Next speaker, please.

Yes. This is part. This, Eric Wood, I wanna do

agree with the article one section twenty five gentleman.

According to the constitution, we don't even need a fishing license. So I won't need to say in play in English,

are we under

the spending the

constitution,

We're under Mitral,

State Play in English.

Is there??

Is that it, sir?

Hello? Can you hear me? Yep. Is is that is that is that the end of your comment?

Well, that and I want answer to it. Plain English.

I've you been it we don't to have Time. We'll discuss all you, and thank you very much. Next speaker, please.

Hi. My name is Philip Scott. Name I'm in Place County.

I was looking at the draft emergency statement, and there is a lot of talk about surgical

effort

on this. Proposal. However, looking at the proposed Greg Report language subs section b, it says the department shall temporarily close or restrict,

and then what the things that they will consider.

The surgical

criteria

that you actually need to have in that provision is found in the draft

informative digest.

Specifically the areas or regions where large gatherings of fishers have been historically known to occur areas where new gatherings are occurring

water or areas that experience a significant number of non res fishers or areas of regions that have limited

emergency and health services availability.

Votes, that's the criteria

that you should be making the decision on the proposed regulation does not reflect it. Therefore, the proposed regulation is extraordinarily broad, and that's why a lot of people are

opposed to this proposal.

And so the other thing to that I wanna point out is that you could also suspend non res licenses if you wish to do that something like that instead of,

doing a broad

blanket brush.

The other thing is if you do it by county,

then what if the waters river streams goes or or lake process into other jurisdictions, you have and it's only one area that you wanted do. Three minute is up wrap up. Okay.

Yeah. The the last thing is is that I wanna... The

the reopening of the, waters under subs section c,

any order that is given under subs section b would automatically

be ineffective on June one, even if the waters are not been reopened under subs section c, and that would

that needs to be clear under subs c.

K Thank you. Next week, please.

Yep. Hello.

Yes. Go good, Terry.

This is Vol hone with the Water Alliance.

People how are you? First of all, I I wanna recognize the commission for showing a lot of constraint

in in managing the fisheries during in this crisis.

We support disease the pause of May thirty first,

and

also support ace elective

specific disclosure.

They not burn is that the event that the closest community

could you ask for special closure that that been denied. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Next speaker, please.

Hello. My name is Will Withers from Huntington Beach California, and I just want to make a couple points.

First off, I understand that this can daniel's pandemic there's obviously a lot of new things going on and there's another clear

clear direction I was where to go.

But a couple points, I wanna make regards to this. Is that first, I wanna make sure.

That there is clear and defined measure

of what we'll define opening up,

the efficiency season

up there as it's already kind of been...

You know, it seems like you... The decision has already been made in some aspects

so Gap governor news will likely not just open the flood gate and say, hey, everything's open now. There's likely gonna be a phased approach,

and he will specifically not call out t scenes in the Eastern sincere. So I'd like to see some verbiage defining what it is that were linked to,

that would actually say that the season is now open or able to be open.

The second one point I wanna make is around establishing precedent.

As most the people here have

made to people in San Diego County. Know. I know that the Fishing game commission has not typically c closed Fishing in

San Diego, but our access to

the ability to fish has been severely limited.

So the cities and insurance sierra should be responsible for controlling access similar to other,

cities around the state,

they can control that access by closing hotels,

closing long ramps, closing things like that. That's how they can mitigate the influx of people coming up there. But they're the Daniel commission taking this sir. Ask you to wrap up your minute is after Go ahead and finish it up.

Vision game is going to be overs stepping their boundaries

by closing specific

regions. And if she get some cities to manage the influx people. Thank you. Thanks thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Next call please.

Hello? Can you hear me?

Yes. We can Hello

Okay. My name is Jacob Long. I'm an angle and resident of Northern California.

I'd like to urge the commission to allow to the maximum extent possible,

access to recreational fishing and shellfish fishing.

Recreational sport fishing is a crucial means of providing healthy food for one oneself,

allowing the ability to provide food for oneself is more important than ever, as many of us are now without a job is standing on the bank of the ocean or a river cannot be more of a risk to our community than standing in line at a food bank,

Additionally, social distancing could be practiced effectively while an.

The budget for the department of Efficient game will be severely negatively impacted if thousands of people do not purchase a license in the coming months.

Article section article one section twenty five of the California

constitution, guarantee citizens the right, the access of waterways.

Counties have no authority under California

constitution to limit that access.

Furthermore, I'd like to urge our elected and non elected officials to continue to uphold and defend the Us constitution as well as the California

constitution. Thank you for taking my comments.

Thank you, sir. Next speaker, please.

Hello. Can you hear me?

Yes. We can. Go ahead, please.

Hello. My name is Kyle Brandt. Perfect like to thank you guys.

For your concerns and efforts to protect the health and safety of Californian during this time.

I'm an avid recreational angle and the majority of the food for my family

comes from the beautiful Waters in Wild land, California.

I believe that phishing can be done in a safe and responsible manner during this pandemic with guidance from Cd

and local authorities.

I urge you not to adopt the proposed motion that would allow Cd w to delays spend or restrict recreational fishing in certain counties.

I believe fishing is now more important than ever for Californian as a safe and healthy outdoor activity, and a means of gathering healthy food to the table,

especially now when so many grocery stores

are devoid of fresh healthy food options.

I believe this can be a great opportunity for Cd to rebuild the public trust between California's

for California's Anglers and Cd

through effective this collaboration. Thank you.

Thank you, Sir. And before the next call, I just wanna remind everybody, we're starting to hear that the... For people we're repeat a lot of the things stuff, which which is fine. If you if you want to do that, you may, You have a minute. But if you if you have heard what you've said wanna say said before.

Everybody would greatly appreciate if you say you endorse previous callers and just list a couple topics that that you wanna endorse. Thank you very much. Next caller, please.

Yes. Go Good afternoon Commissioner.

Hi. My name is Landon Pep, and I'm at a local level of Current County phishing game commissioner, and I also work for a California based on profit called the Wild Cons consultancy.

I'm also having fly through She at just Sierra thirty days a year.

Speaking on behalf of my organization, we closed our twenty preserve statewide where we hosted over a million visitors last year. We're following the governor's order, and we support the adoption of the the regulations and allowing Cd to take the necessary.

Steps in protecting our

local and public health and safety. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Next speaker, please.

Yeah. This is my name is Scott I'm from Stan County. And I just wanted to kind of,

voice my support for

some clarification in the wording. A lot of the even the stuff coming out of your office here, does not specify that this is to be restricted to certain counties, and it really does sound like it's a statewide issue.

I think that, I would also like to support the people who say, Yes. Standing on the bank of a river is about as socially isolated as you can get. Even the people you go with, you're not likely to be standing within six feet from. And the idea that the line at the grocery store is somehow safer than a boat ramp to me is somewhat ridiculous.

I think that this is...

Doesn't really have a whole lot of precedent in anything we've ever done before. And

I feel like this is a matter best left to the individual counties.

And that some level of just getting... As I was also said before, of getting the word out there to people that don't travel to these places,

they don't have the facilities to support your travel right now, getting that word out there is the most important part

and I don't feel that additional regulations are required for this.

Matt G from Sacramento County and opposition of this proposal. After listening to leaders of the state commission this morning demon I and make assumptions about the responsibility of Anglers,

I'm trouble that were presumed guilty of negligence until proven innocence.

Fishermen do not

do do not visit these counties unprepared or without knowledge of remote businesses will not be open. Let alone rely on those businesses to supply them with their needs in order to.

We these businesses at higher elevation down to support the fishing and hunting communities. These businesses have now flows and there's not an ability from for outsiders to transmit the virus to operators these businesses and other residents due to their closure.

Furthermore, if these counties wanna truly isolate themselves from other counties in fear that they cannot prevent the spread of Covid, they must take more extreme measures than not letting visitors on their highway to fish. So these counties are willing to stop all residents from leaving their home. Stop all deliveries from neighboring counties, and completely isolate themselves within in the state of California, the these counties should remain open to the crowd season. Commerce is a two way street. You do not get benefit from neighboring counties,

delivery of supplies is goods, And then on the other hand, restrict those county from traveling and recreating safely and responsibly within your borders. Thank you guys for your time and consideration and listening to my voice.

Thank you, sir. Thank you for calling. Next speaker, please.

Good afternoon. This is Glenn with Big Red Worm company. I supply probably about fifteen different counties in California with bay products and tackle products.

Okay. I do support the... County being able to decide whether they are open or closed. But on that note, I would like fishing games to also step in and let counties know that if they going to say that they are open that their ramps need to be open,

and their base options need to be open. There are several bait shops right now because they don't sell any sort of drinks or toilet paper that are being forced to close,

and they're gonna be closed for several months versus other stores that are open right now. So I would just like,

if we are going to give counties the option, if counties are going to be open, then they need to be open to

The stores also supply these products that are essential for fishing.

Thank you.

Thank you very much. Next speaker, please.

Yes. Go ahead.

Hi. This is Laura Mills from Monterey County, and my husband and I are Avid Anglers.

We fish

in

the Los Pad National Forest.

And we are concerned about the financial impacts on the hatch trees. Most of the

traditionally we do is planted trial that California pit fish and wildlife plant

or recreational fishers.

We're also concerned about the impact to four hundred L,

which is federal land that had joined us. We have a lot of friends and neighbors that fish there,

and that would be impacted

on their recreational fishing.

So we

do support the counties that are requesting. This is the other speakers have stated,

present present clark for for their own reason,

but we would like to see the surgical

approach.

Applied to the rest of the county.

Great. Thank you very much. Next speaker, please.

Hi. This is Terrence Sullivan from

California.

Hello about? Yes, sir. Go ahead, please.

Hi. I was calling in regards

just great listening to this, and

it's

understanding

everyone's concerns.

One of the things

Guess is

far local pissing of, people from local areas,

actually opening it up to

sister county

that are ordering,

sometimes it might be

easier for someone to,

drive

to a next county next door

than it is,

drive to

another fisherman within their own county borders. So maybe more of a

spread out earlier

you know, a originally of about fifty miles or something like that they were,

a lot of us go fishing

at at other lakes in another county,

in it's day use.

So it might be an a hour drive back and forth,

and it might be less of a approving,

going all the way across your own county. So

just take that in Thank you, isolation. Thanks for everything. Bye. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.

Next speaker, please.

Benjamin and Drive her callback County supervisor district five?

Supervisor. I'm

I'm in support of a county the county decision with local surgical control.

Some

some of what the recommendation going forward today we'll need some words missing in order to

request that verbatim.

You know, we are we are in support of the

health and safety of everyone in California at the same time,

we we would like to the consideration that place places of

congregation, boat ramp,

stocks some restroom areas

are some of the sites that would be the largest word more so than people short fishing that are managing maintaining social distancing.

Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Next speaker, please.

Hello?

Yes. Go, please.

My name is Julian Frazier. I'm Martinez, California. I'm from a family that

commercial fifth back in the fifties.

I'm saying that because their fishing was taken away, and it was un unwanted because it was the

it was the water project that that took the salmon out of the car strait, And I I'm afraid of things like this happening again.

This issue should really not be in front of fishing game. The authorities, the the agency that addressed this issue are of state

and the county themselves, and they're pushing this off to an agency that really shouldn't have this authority.

It's travel.

It's ultimately travel. And under the the shelter in place, we're not even supposed to leave the area of our homes

for our counties.

So there's means to enforce this, and it's rough, but there are means.

California state is in

control of the highway patrol. And if these counties need help to keep people from coming in. That's what they should do. There are other types of recreation that aren't

being told, they can't keep things. And in one of the letters, they're saying the reason they want this because they're noticing people move in to their counties for other types of recreation. I just don't think there's this fair

I don't think it's really surgical

in that you're saying we're gonna go county by county. Sure. Or you're you're one it's up can you wrap up, please?

Yeah. I'm wanna wrap up. The the the point is is,

eventually, it could be the most state. County by County is not surgical.

And I just wanna Alright. Thank you I don't you. Thank you.

Appreciate it. Next speaker, please.

Thank you for hearing me. My name is Serge Vas with Ford Fish gear and Expert Marine electronic.

Carl Sword Club and Soc Flare club. I'd like to oppose any Ds measures restricting the abilities of Anchors to exercise their constitutional rights to fish. Furthermore, I'd like to see the department of efficient wildlife like more involved, In protecting anchors right to access these waterways.

For example, what's going on is San Diego where anchors can't take and launch their boats to access the oceans, so they could

provide for their own family.

Thank you for hearing me.

Thank you, sir. Next speaker, please. And I'm just gonna mention again, as Director Bottom says that we don't have authority over local ports and and what they're doing, we encourage you to work with your local ports to do that, but that's not in

jurisdiction efficient game commission. So it's not up. Particularly helpful to keep hearing something that we can't do anything about just asking the courtesy of focusing on what the commission actually does next speaker, please.

Hi mister President. Can you hear me?

Yes. We can. Please go ahead. Hi. My name is Derek Frost. I'm a cons from Sacramento, California.

Just wanted to reiterate a couple of things that I had heard on the call today, all the commentary I was very good both from the County officials in and the state, as well as my fellow, Californian.

The diversity of the state to me is is really a challenge. Right? When we look at the the of Covid, it's it's heavily located in the Bay area, it's heavily located in the sacramento area, and it's heavily located.

And other specific parts of the state, La, San Diego and and now unfortunately, run of county, which is really what's driving this.

Adopting a a piece of or an emergency action that may be able to be applied unilaterally,

the same way across the entire state at the that the limit counties is a little bit dangerous to me county And

it makes me feel as though we're we're just setting ourselves up for a slippery free slope where

you know, various counties see that

this that they can... That they can lock people out of fishing or recreating successfully.

And that translates downstream out counties. So I really challenge

the commission

to to think carefully about this decision and and about maybe a different way to structure the language that would allow

the counties that really need the help to get what they need,

but to recognize that the diversity of the state both in terms of population,

and the threat of Covid

can maybe made managing in a different way. Thank you very much, and appreciate the time that you guys have put to to get this meeting together.

Thank you very much, sir. Next speaker, please.

Good afternoon, everybody. How are you?

We are well. You. Go ahead, please.

Alright. So, my name is Tommy Harris. I'm a resident of Ko cross County.

I do not support this in its current verbiage

as an alternative. I would suggest,

do not allow any counties to close.

They're fishing. I do understand the

concerns of the Eastern Sierra County. So my suggestion would be to

limit fishing to only within your county line.

If you're a resident of Twenty County, you can only fish within Twelve County, etcetera, etcetera,

be enforce by an imp of water

complication of gear finds aside from the social distancing fine,

replication of your fishing license.

And I do understand that a lot of... Counties in California are divided buy water. So if it is a shared

water way on a county line

to, allow both counties to fish on that,

specific water way.

That's my two cents to my suggestion, to, help mitigate all this take for your time.

Thank you very much, sir. Next speaker, please. Hi. Good afternoon. My name is Joe,

and I'm in the fifty first district, which is the seventh fourth part of San Diego.

Thank you for your time

I just wanna say,

two things.

I think

like, others have said, it's a little drastic.

The way things are written.

In which it seems to me where

closures can be

done quickly and anywhere, even outside of the three counties, which are I very empathetic towards.

At the same time, I do know

if you guys are gonna do what you gotta do, So rather than to try to

convince you guys to do otherwise,

I I asked that you guys were take into consideration. When you guys do open up these fisheries.

Again,

I know it won't be a big flood gate that just opens up and, hey, everybody get at it, but that he was take into consideration,

Kayak Fisherman who are the solo list of solo.

We,

we fish on a regular, even when work together, we're not together.

And also, I really like the left guys idea regarding

finalizing

those who disobey the orders,

rather than finalizing the entire fishing community.

And so please consider Kayak Fisherman as far as when you're opening these fisheries,

we should be the last one pushed out and the first one

let back in. Thank you, guys very much. You, sir. Appreciate it. Next speaker, please. Hello, and thank you to all the officials and attendance of this call. Can you hear me?

Yes. We can. Go ahead, Ashley.

My name is Aaron Wolf I'm a licensed nurse in California and Public health nurse. With the national Board certification and emergency department.

I appreciate the concerns of the smaller communities regarding the fear of the influx,

and that associated risk. I understand the infection risk and the potential for hospital capacity strain is that's why I field of focus.

I oppose the pursuit of this additional regulation.

The charge efficient wildlife is to protect efficient wildlife. The public health agencies protect public health through their orders.

Current public health orders provide adequate authority to enforce the need to reduce the spread of Covid nineteen.

These public health regulations automatically adjust for public health orders and the governor

Christian Wildlife agents can support the public health needs with current practices of monitoring angle behavior

and checking

addresses associated with licenses.

Our request is enforcement.

For all of this,

and limiting access to local residents based on the local public health orders for what it's best to reduce the risk to the communities

and,

more regulations will just further stress the in the, law enforcement resources

and risk or you're through two years time is Been Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Take, please. Yep. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yes. I'm at Angle. I've been coming to this year for forty one year.

I support either

where you deal with this. I'm also a second homeowner in Mammoth Lakes, you owns every

residents. I rent to full time residents there. I come to the Sierra ten fifteen times

a month

or or put in those days.

I have tons to friends... Everybody wants the opening day. I'm in favor of closing the whole thing to local residents or no or not. Is what are you gonna do with second homeowners.

I don't agree with letting me finish

county to county. It's just... It's not gonna work. People are gonna load up, you know, friends in their places and all that. So whichever way you go,

hundred percent

close it or a hundred percent open it.

Thank you. Thank you, sir. Next speaker, please.

Hi. This is Jeff. Can you hear me?

Yes we can, Jeff. Go ahead.

Perfect.

I. I think you guys are overs step your boundaries and this in the scenario. Thirty pieces up put in place for you guys to go ahead and manage this for those counties that actually don't want these visitors. We have to stay at home or.

That's already been said numerous times.

I I do believe you guys are better served actually having a campaign

they go out it's talk about social distancing and to talk about those counties that don't have access or show up. So those are are in my opinion the solutions talk to these counties in order to do so. Second thing is listening to these counties and their hypocrisy is is pretty sad. Talk I just heard someone say that Eastern Sierra is

is the highest per capita infection rate. And yet every one of these people in the Eastern Sierra is actually advocating that only locals fish there.

Anyone can't see the box seeing that. I don't I don't know what's wrong with you.

Alright. Thank you very much.

To my opinion.

Alright. Appreciate it. Next speaker, please.

Hi, doing. My name is Andrew Gibbons on a resident of Sandler Bernardino County, and I have been fishing with Eastern Sierra for thirty five years.

I represent the urban outdoors in Youtube channel over five thousand

subscribers.

I just wanted to chime in on this topic. I appreciate all the politicians that have given their perspective. I think it's important to understand that most of the people on the... Politician side, our people that probably have never

have never fished in their lives. So we're taking into account a lot of, first responders side with these opinions. But on the fishermen side, I think that we are greatly discounting

that the fishermen are taking the brunt of this. We're we are, like, touching the blame of the spread here. And

basically,

no fisherman is going to go to the sierra unprepared. I think a lot of the... We've already made it clear that a lot of the

support at their motel, all that stuff is already shut down. So Push are gonna go up there and pretty much have to bring what they gotta bring anyway. And everything else is kind of handled at a local level as far as

you know, social distancing thing order.

The county how...

I'm sorry?

Yeah. You're one minute up, can you wrap up, please?

Oh.

The the orders are also being mis mistreated by the governor is that there is no such thing as

stay at home.

I'm sorry, sir so your time... Your time is next caller, please?

Okay.

Hello. Can you hear me?

Can. Go ahead, please.

Great. Thank you, sir. Thank you for your time.

This is from the California

constitution. My name is Dan, Brennan. I'm an Avid fisherman and I fish my whole life in the state of California and all over the west.

The people shall have the right

to fish upon and from the public lands of the state and the waters thereof of

Accepting upon land set aside for fish hatch trees, and no land owned by the state shall ever be sold or transferred without reserving in the people, the absolute right to fish there upon, and no loss shall ever be passed

making into crime for the people to enter upon the public lands within this state for the purpose of fishing, and any water containing fish that have been planted therein end by the state, provided that the legislature by the statute

provide for the season when the conditions under which the different species of fish may be taken.

It's pretty clear.

I was adopted in the eighteen hundreds by our state.

We have every right to be there. We're all adults

I think you can open the season.

There's no there's no problem

from someone from Orange County going to the Southern Sierra for day of fishing coming back. It's not a problem your time. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Next speaker, please.

Good afternoon, commissioner.

Thank you for everything.

This is mike and Terry with official business. Again,

much with that nurse practitioner said is what we agree on what we were gonna state we just pray and hope that you guys do not close this down

in any any fashion for the fishing and the honey community. Thank you for your time.

Thank you very much, sir. Next speaker, please. Still garcia.

My, eight year Veteran.

Just wanted to state that I have... Thank you. I oppose the commission with gripping any sport fishing,

while I also oppose the,

county restricting sport fishing or access to public or private waters.

I believe that that is the

at the full discretion of accountants,

and I am troubled with the language that has being used

on this call today as well as,

not matching what's in the regulatory

section eight point zero two,

specifically that this is a

quote unquote surgical

designed

procedure to, if only effect the three counties that have requested it, yet the language that's in section eight point zero two does not surgical or in any way,

identify those three,

accounted for the restriction it is a a blanket in restriction.

Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Next speaker, please.

Yes Go ahead, please. My name is Christopher James. I'm calling from Daly City in Summit mateo County. I just wanted to point out that the changes

focus purely on giving authority to the director of the Ftc in consultation with the president and the Commission to close fishing specific areas were needed.

Quote from the draft

statement.

Commission finds as a direct can more properly respond to change circumstances and shipping guidance from public health organizations and the commission can as a body.

However, any reduction in existing oversight, it's always problematic. And if the commission still were still to be consulted.

The then there should be no need to remove the need for a quorum vote in the first place.

Additionally, if there's only three counties requesting this, then changes regarding efficiency should be a low priority.

Is my opinion that efficiency related changes being made because it may be envisioned by counties might request closures

and this makes the whole resolution effectively more open ended than originally conveyed. If any change was required a much better compromise resolution would be to simply delay trial season to the same date that the promotion emergency resolution that end at and make no other changes.

You

Thank you very much. Next speaker, please. Hi. Can you hear me?

Yes. We can. Go ahead, please.

Hey.

I'm gonna

remain with. I'm from the

from San Mateo County.

And I just wanna,

point some people that,

the people that say that they can

be responsible and travel to another accountant,

not spread the virus,

there's still a chance

when you're driving to another county that you break down,

or when you're fishing, you get hurt and you're gonna be pulling the resources from that county

and possibly inspecting

emergency responders,

or, like, even if you're...

If you need gas some house, unless you bring your own gas thing, you have to stop at a gas station and a gas station employee can be infected. So,

it's... There's not a one hundred percent way to

stop spread if you think you can travel to, like, Mono or San County from somewhere else. Thank you.

Thank you, sir.

Next speaker, please.

This is Terry Simon to ta Hay County.

I'd like to share with you, and thank you for your time. First of all,

ta County,

has no Covid

patient currently.

And I do respect the fact that their small communities don't want to be infected, but I also believe in the

constitution, and therefore, I oppose the way the current draft is presented. Thank you for your time.

Thank you. Next speaker, please. Hi. This is Danielle from the American Sport Fishing Association. Once I apparently dial

Go ahead, please. I'm so sorry.

Yeah. So I'll follow the rules and, just say that of the american Sport fishing Association would like to second to the comments made by a being client from the Congressional Sports foundation. And also, just note that we so appreciate how comm the The director has been and the commission as well. And

whatever decision is made down the road in terms of fishing access we just very much encouraged

open minded of communications to continue.

Great. Thank you Very much. Thank you. Lauren, has anybody else

come on since then? I don't see anyone else queued up at this time. Okay. I'm gonna give people just another minute or two to push pound to or to red dial in and press pound Too you wanna let see we get anybody else in the queue. Take a two minute break, and then we'll come back and if nobody's on, then we'll move on to his staff and and and commission.

Hi. My name is Lewis Demi from San Diego County. Can you hear me?

Yes. We can, sir. Go ahead, please.

Hi. And you guys are mandated to protect our rights, the Hunting and fish so I oppose any changes

if anything, you guys should be actually assisting us two fishing locations and protecting us from anyone who opposes us.

Please do not change anything, leave it up to local authorities.

And if anything, you guys be getting in a standoff with those local stories

convey to where we hunt and fish. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Next speaker, please.

My name is Chris Mona from San diego County. Wanna take commission for a allowing speak, I wanna also voice my opinion that I oppose any changes made to fishing season or postpone fulfillment or delay. Thank you again for your time.

Thank you. Appreciate it.

Next speaker.

Hi. I'd like to remain named San diego County. I think for your time. Just like to reiterate... Reiterate article on section twenty five, which I know y'all all are very I'm aware of and informed on. Also,

we use fishing as a way to stress down here, and a lot of the local lakes have made

the access unavailable. I just like you guys to support us, also support and put emphasis on the City of Cv diego. To open up the lakes down here because if we're water fishing, there's nowhere for us to water fish in San Diego County. And at this time, we're paying for our fishing permits and our hunting permits, which the the national forest service is also closing down area down in San Diego County. So at this time, we're unable to trip hunt or batches,

and we're paying for the permits. And if you guys are not gonna open them, we're gonna meet a refund for our hunting and fishing license.

Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Next speaker, please.

So

Sounds like somebody has their,

mike open if your member staff or department, please mute.

Otherwise, next speaker, please.

And if you're speaker, you need to un unmute.

Yes.

My name is Doug Brown.

Can you hear me?

Yes. Again can. Go ahead, please. Okay. I... I'm... My name is Doug Brown. I'm a business owner in mobile counties.

And if you're gonna... Have a delay on the fishing opener in the eastern here, I would

recommend that you don't do it

any later than May thirty first. That's all I wanted to say. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Next speaker, please.

Yes. Thank you. This is

Dan Wolf.

Can you hear me? Yes. Yes. Go ahead, please.

Yeah.

Thank mister President. I'm speaking in support of the emergency action.

I want to talk first to the

proposed opt out of the auto conform feature.

For marine fisheries.

I understand Hope that this was only included for contingency purposes.

And...

But but that opt out, I'm in, the auto conform is an important part of our marine fisheries.

And I do wonder if it needs to be retained as part of the emergency action

and asked that you consider removing that element from the proposed action.

Also wanna note that recreational fishing, there's an important part of a helium process.

And, initially, I had some fear that it might be taken away from us.

I'm pleased to see that neither the department nor the commission intends to come forth with Max closures.

I'm gonna take you on your word for that, and this will be a good opportunity to build some positive

relationships.

Within the recreational community. So long as those quarters are indeed narrowly constrained to request from local agencies and temporary duration. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Next speaker, please.

Yes. Go ahead. Can you hear me.

Yes. We can. Yeah. Just wanna make a call at. Yeah. My name is Jeremy W out of City, California.

Just

let the boat off boat dock was full.

He's elbow boat lost probably forty trucks and trailers,

and nobody made contact with any other person besides he you came with.

And I want that known to the state that when you go and you're with the group you came with, whether it be boat or bank?

That's it.

Great. Thank you very much. Next speaker, please. Thank you.

And

Hi. My name is Tom Pulp. I'm from In your county,

and I feel that the commission's responsibility is to manage the and wildlife, not control with populations of people.

Our local jurisdiction, government officials have already

started that, and that is their responsibility.

They've closed campground, rental properties

made it difficult for

anybody that's gonna travel from outside to to come here and say,

and I feel that that's done well already. The early opener

opened in March in County, And as far as I know, there's been no issues

from out out of area people

that had brought to C pennsylvania to to this area.

You know, will all the rest of the areas that have already opened remain open.

I believe that the department of Fish and Wildlife has already made a statement that the fish docking

will continue where they can do a one person fish stocking, but where they're stocking all the small themes stuff, where it takes two people that they will not be doing it. And how will

the rest of the non uninformed people know about

the regulations that you are considering doing. I would be opposed for to

Thank you.

Thank you. Next speaker, please?

Hi there. This is Kevin from Sacramento County.

I can. Just wanna

raise my opinion that I oppose the closure of our fisheries

and

reiterate the need for a centralized

location,

via website,

that displays what bodies of water are currently closed. There's a lot of confusion of what's open and what's not. And,

some sort of website that's updated showing what's closed

that remains open would be extremely helpful. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Any other speakers, Lauren.

That was the last speaker.

Okay.

I'm gonna close public comment then. We've

given everybody a chance, I hope that people were able to resolve the technical problems we've gotten a full,

range of comments, and I wanna thank everybody for that, certainly pleased that this has worked better than that than last week on our trial run and that, I wanna turn the mic over to director Buy to answer and address some of the questions that we're at.

Address public company.

Yes. So

I wanna start

and again,

someone...

Everybody take a moment, just check the phones

It's here on the staff side, and it mute

for commissioner side.

And and I go that, Lauren. Can you make sure you mute mute all for all the public then that'll... And maybe there's somebody on the

that.

Okay. So the very first thing I wanna say, this is Chuck on again is a deep.

Thank you full of appreciation for everyone.

Who's dialed in today. I think we might have hit close to four hundred participants.

This proves it's possible

to

do our public business.

Under current circumstances

in a way that's respectful of each other,

gives us a chance to share and understand where we're all coming from independently,

and

thank you to each of the comment or elected official tribal,

fishing leadership and individual citizens.

Whether you fall in the agree, disagree,

don't really know mixed feelings,

each person

really showed

what it's like for us is Californian have a conversation on something we all care about. So a huge bank.

In no particular order

trying to think about some of the questions that I heard.

Let me reiterate just out in the ocean.

Yes, there appears to be a patchwork of approaches that is happening in coastal counties

but things around peers, marina, harbors

are not the commission nor the department

jurisdiction.

In fact, in the ocean, the department has worked really hard

with the recreational fishing industry

and commercial and recreational fishermen and women

to get ground opened as an example

to delay slightly the original part of the salmon season, but moves the thirty days to the back of the season.

And in a matter of days, we think we're gonna have additional

clarity for ocean, fishermen and women

about

keeping your recreational opportunity

particularly for salmon in the ocean?

Second kind of theme that emerged,

how do we reopen?

Well,

I believe as director, we would reopen

like potentially if we were granted this disability, we would delay.

We would do it as promptly

as possible,

engaged with the local governments at the level of health

law enforcement

elected

in tribal government,

and we would try to move everything

that might have been delayed

to reopen

promptly.

Also, I think,

if you look at the actual proposed draft regulatory language,

anything

that might be delayed

under section eight point o two b

would necessarily be opened

by the time you get to section g

and all of the

regulation expiring

on May thirty first,

So either,

I think you would see reopening because of the expiration

or the department and consultation with the president local government and tribes

would reopen before then,

or to avoid confusion, the department could affirm

not only is the emergency

regulation expiring,

all of these waters are now open.

As to another question,

how will we know

I would encourage folks to remember the actual proposed regulatory language. I think it's Section e

directs the department to maintain a list of affected waters and restrictions

we would be required to update that list daily by seven Pm.

And also, there's a number to call for information. I'll tell everyone that number right now. It's nine one six

four four five.

Seven six zero zero, and those two fish official lot,

and it is true that some of your elected and non elected officials do fish on one of them.

Know that those mechanisms already exist

to figure out what is open and not open.

So that's something that came up.

As to

input

well placed by supervisors from Del,

Trinity and Humble,

each of whom I know.

I hear you.

I understand your suggestion of the word consultation.

I will give you my personal commitment. The way I would approach this as director

is to be in

consultation.

With

county

as they may come to the department and the commission.

I would be interested in consultation with the public health officer,

the sheriff

and the Board of supervisors.

Before the department

and I as director would form any opinion on what to do.

Same personal commitment as director to each tribal government

that may elect to engage with the department on this.

The door would be open. Our travel advisor Nathan Bog and I would want direct

communication with the right part of a tribal government. If they were still inclined to

come to us because of this emergency

regulation.

I understand Bart Hall suggestion to consider adding days at the end of the season,

if we delayed at the beginning.

I think that's a legitimate variable, the department and the commission and,

our stakeholders would want to engage on.

Because you are right, the department and the commission are committed to increasing

not decreasing opportunity.

And but for this pandemic, we wouldn't be talking about this situation.

To remind folks,

couple poke folks asked about how can we trust

unity and what if there are discrepancies

in ways, local government wants to treat it and

how the state government may approach it through the commission in the department?

This emergency

regulation self expires in forty six days.

I would also, if given this ability as director,

the required

to come to the commission's meeting

in, like, a matter of three weeks early May mid May

and do a full transparent

reporting

of what has or has not happened

relative to this emergency

regulation.

Why not just say three counties?

Look, when we started to realize this could be an issue, we were still also trying to get our arms around who might be interest?

The regulation reflects the fact that the criteria

prohibits the department from taking steps

without

consultation,

my words,

consultation, my commitment director,

consultation with local government,

and in consultation with the president.

I don't think they've granted disability, it's why it's for the department for runoff and use

without

constant

regular

communication with likely affected stakeholders.

We realize the importance of recreational efficiency.

Here's an easy one, no.

We're not exercising marshall law,

just running through the questions I've been asked.

I'm aware of article one, section twenty five. I've read it.

I've memorized it.

Well, I don't practice anymore. I am a

an attorney by background.

I will remind folks that the last provision of that article

says

except for

the ability to restrict seasons in use.

That's been tested in court regularly.

I think what the commission would be doing here if it were to approve the emergency

regulation.

Is restricting use around the season.

The department could have come to the commission with a proposal like the state of Washington.

We did.

We tried to find something careful deliberate and thoughtful.

We've been given this

delegation only once before during the drought.

We've only used it once.

In the next forty six days, I realized we need to prove

It's worth trusting us, and that would be my focus as director.

So with that, let me stop there.

Great. Thank you.

So I wanna I wanna say a few words and that, well I do so I wanna ask my fellow commissioners if they have questions for comments they wanna make before we look at a motion of possible motion to I use the rate hand, so I'll come to you in order in just a minute.

I wanna start by thanking director Bon for, his efforts in the last week to,

last three weeks really to to look at fashion this this measure,

proposed measure,

or working with us over last week and direct an department to work with us to find a way to make this meeting work, and and I hope most people feel it worked pretty well.

Perfect is never achievable, but I think it was

quite amazing how well it went and and how we're able to take public comment in a flowing fashion

after, you know, a false start last week. I wanna thank the department staff for all their work on this. I wanna thank Jordan

Sub for her great work on on

communicating what had happened and what we really were doing because I think that made a huge difference in terms of, people's understanding today. The staff of the commission has been unbelievable. We have a very tiny staff who have a ton on their plate under normal circumstances,

and this, both the technological challenges is making this work,

and the actual substance of it added an enormous amount of work, I particularly wanna to thank are incredible executive director who has been working seven days a week,

longer hours than I that I can imagine to make this happen and I wanna express the gratitude of the commission and and for the state

for Mill or leadership and teamwork. And I wanna thank the public who participate participated today. Again, as Director Bottom said people were respectful, they had thoughtful comments,

that we're helpful and productive, and, I know we're gonna take them in consideration as we now,

I'll move on to commission discussion.

Let... Man, and I like to ask

director. I mean, exact director. She make a comment to and I see that that one commissioner has a like gas Go ahead and. I just like to build on your statement about the public comment, and we do recognize that there were, you know, some technical glitches today, and we're able to work around them mostly.

We do are aware of my handful of people who were not able to get through

but we also

recognize that for some of those comments,

we we've had conversations directly with them and have a a relatively good sense,

and we're trying to convey that to our,

commissioners.

But also wanted to highlight that we did have a tribal

representative who was attempting to connect earlier this morning when we were having some of our technical issues and,

wanted to highlight that the satellite knee eighth Nation would like to engage in a government government

compensation on this. That's it.

Sure we, we will certainly do that.

Commissioner Maria, see if you have your hand rates, please. Chime in.

Yeah. And and I don't have a question as message I just wanted to make a few comments based on everything we heard if that's okay. That's of course. And then after you all call on,

Commissioner Officer Conversation.

Great. So I wanna echo all the banks to tribes elected officials numbers of the public for your engagement and

absolutely express my gratitude to,

to all of our fifty and commission and department professional by staff

for the thoughtful and thorough

economic and fiscal impact statements,

in particular, that analyze these sort of twenty five fifty, hundred percent

fishing or restriction and scenarios for economic impact. Those impacts are significant, of course. And I I pre appreciate this being able to see the effort that's gone into aggregating that information, creating the tables and graphs found within the economic and fiscal statement. It's a a real testament

to the deli declaration and thought that has gone into this decision making,

and it inspires a lot of confidence in the kind of detail oriented approach that I think we can expect. As we tackle this moving forward.

On a personal note, I just... I... You know, I work full time outside of this position with the commission now remotely

at home with my two kids, we're six and seven while I also now home cool them. So I really do understand firsthand,

the important mental health benefits of getting

away being outside, commuting with nature.

Last week, my kids and I

we're lucky enough to to to purchase six live Ab from our local Southern California Ab farmer,

not only in an effort to support local businesses, but also to sort of connect with Nate to do something together as a family.

And I Again, I just... I really understand wanting to be able to get out on the water. I want to be able to go to the beach, hike on trails,

but the governor's order is clear. And right now, we have to balance those wellness benefits with the serious long term costs.

That it could have for our state's communities.

And I trust director or Bon to do that. And it's not because I don't trust us

as the sufficient game commission,

or because I don't trust local government to manage these

themselves.

But we heard at the top of the meeting that different counties

have different requests, different concerns, different needs. You know, Those of Mona and Inn,

Trinity Del, El dorado. They're all... They all have different priorities in balancing short term economic gains with long term public health.

And I really see that director bottoms can act as a clearing house for those wolf of requests, while acting as point person with president Sk

in considering and taking action in a way that is

both surgical

and keep the comprehensive

statewide landscape in mind.

I trust that director Bon can balance equity and access

while also keeping mental health in mind for all

and can think about statewide impacts

and work to avoid inadvertently concentrating fishing effort in the remaining open areas, which I also heard from from some comment answers,

So I I think the director bon in consultation with Parsons Clark can act n in an emergency

situation,

not only to temporarily

suspend, but also to quickly reopen fishing in a timely way.

If public health, if and when public health recommendations and governor News guidance

allow it. We are not talking about a blanket closure today, there is expressed accountability to us at a game Commission

that is built into this emergency

regulation, you know, it includes reporting back to the commission on any decision made,

and it's not open ended. It expires May thirty first. So for these reasons, I just wanted to, to lay out these reasons. So but I... I I will be supporting this temporary emergency

regulation.

Thank you very much, by vice President Murray. Really appreciate your thoughtful comments and appreciate that.

Commissioner your hostile commerce, please.

Yes. Thank you, President Sal. I also want to extend huge thank you and

appreciation to Melissa and efficient Game commission staff as well as director Bottoms.

And his entire staff. I think

that you have really done a great job today in Laying out,

director bottom and president Sk. That the Phishing Game commissioned together with the department

we really do understand.

And

I believe that we have built trust, I believe we will

continue to build trust

with the fishing community. And I think today's call really exe emphasize that And I do believe it should be a case by case basis

with local control,

and and I also

know that president

Will reach out to us

individual commissioners.

On those case by case basis,

if he feels that more input is needed, and we have the ability to also give our input to

president Clark.

And

I really think that everything that we have done over the last several years is working towards building trust with the stakeholders

with the drives and with the,

leaders.

In the phishing gain

commission. Thank you.

Thank you. Commissioner Officer Car. Next commissioner Silva, please.

Yes. Thank you. Mister President.

I also just wanna also just

so they're really support thing that the

commissioner Murray mentioned,

just about the great that department it to,

you know, I have a a very good legal and technical

basis for this action.

I also wanted to say that that they knowledge do it much better do they appreciate that. You know, we had

commissioner Mir and I had a heck of a time with our

our

permission meeting, you know, two weeks ago, our

So this was much much better one big improvement like kudos to everybody to put it together.

And, finally, I wanted to a couple of things. One is you, obviously, this is based on trust. And, you know, I think right now that you farm my.

And the commission are working really well together and, you know, it's... One of the commissioners really

support,

you know, the the efforts of the departments and work with our president to to to move as quickly as it's possible to

work for the counties as needed. So I, you know, that's, I think that's an indication of trust

level that we have right now the can department of the commission.

And just we'll add on that side and it's obviously, I think if the department work with the governor's office follow ups. It seems like Public calgary is about Would very important give some of the comments. There seems to be on confusion

about what the department commission can and can do.

So Just, you're, encouraged

the department work that again there's office, And how you get better get the board out.

Thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner. Silva, we believe the commissioner burns have to leave the meeting, I'm just gonna see if he hears us And if he, I'm gonna give him a second to type in if you'd like to make a comment.

Oh, I'm still with you, Eric. Okay. Great. Commissioner burns. Do you have any comments or questions?

Yeah. I'll be brief. I just would like to really send out my appreciation to direct to bottom and your cell president's scar,

even when we first went through this process earlier this month, it was hard for people to put their arms around it and truly understand what it meant. I believe that,

today, it was laid out extremely well.

Very easy to understand.

I think that there was a lot of positive

feedback, both Pro and Con, it it truly to me reflected that people

got it and understand.

In necessity for it whether they agree or not. And I'd also like to say both the department staff, and of course, our commissioner or staff for a job well done pulling this off today. Thank you.

Great. Great. Thank you for commissioner Burns. I didn't hear from anybody that they wanna modify the resolution in any way, and unless somebody doesn't speak up now. I'd ask that somebody make a motion. It's on page

three of the sap report for item too.

The commissioner commission you'd like to make a motion? I'll make the motion.

That the the commission declares its intent.

To deviate from the automatic conform process

identified in section one point nine five

title fourteen

Cc,

three, am I on the right motion.

I'm sorry. Yet yet yes you are. Thank you. Okay. Regarding Ocean Sam and Pacific Cal sport efficient regulations and finds as follows

percent to section three nine nine of the California fishing game codes

adopting this regulation as necessary for the immediate

preservation of the public peace health and safety

or general welfare

based on the record, the proposed action is exempt from the California Environmental Quality act as an action necessary to prevent or mitigate an emergency as specified in section two one zero eight zero p b, p four of the public resources code.

Pursuant to section one one three four six point one of the California government code and emergency

situation exists.

The proposed regulation is necessary to address the emergency,

the emergency

situation clearly poses

such an immediate serious harm that delaying action to allow further notice in public comments after this meeting would be inconsistent with the public interest.

And that immediate action is reasonably

expected to prevent or significantly

alleviate that serious harm.

Therefore, the commission adopt the emergency

regulation to add section eight point zero two.

Title fourteen

Cc

and direct staff to submits a regulation to the California office of administrative law as promptly as possible

and request that oa a l filed a regulation with the secretary of state as promptly as possible.

And is there a second?

Jacket.

That was next mister Burns?

Yes.

Okay. Motion made by commissioner by H Car and second by commissioner Burns Roll paul, please, Sharing?

Mister H Car?

Hi.

Mister Byrne?

Hi.

Pearson Silva?

Hi.

Vice President Murray.

Hi.

President Clark.

Hi.

But that the motion passes unanimously, and once again, thank you to everybody involved.

Apartment commission drive public. You name it, everybody who's helped with this and move this process this along. That's gonna conclude our meeting today. We're gonna reset till tomorrow. I wanna add a couple of items for tomorrow. We start tomorrow at nine Am with the same system,

so call in if you plan to comment. If you just wanna listen and I encourage you to go to the online streaming that we always use, which is w w w dot f g c dot c a dot g o v, and you can watch. The meeting there on our normal streaming.

Otherwise, but the follow instructions to call in as you did today for public comment, we will,

everybody will be muted.

Until the individual item we wanna speak to, so we'll do the same thing where you raise your hand when that item comes up and we'll call in you then. I wanna point out that we will not,

based on an emotion on item number one today, we will not be considering item three b,

four,

five,

six,

seven,

thirteen or thirty one. So if those are items of interest, those are gonna be postponed to a later meeting. The rest of the agenda as is is as posted, and we'll begin with item

number

three

tomorrow,

after calling the role.

Okay. Sounds, you have a comment?

Yeah. For for question. Did you did you wanna

after taking up close session today or... No. I think we'll do that during lunchtime tomorrow. We will tomorrow take a lunch break, because it's gonna be a long day? And we'll do executive post session at that point. Fellow commissioners, thank you. We'll watch for a an email from from Melissa just laying out some of the plans for tomorrow morning, but it'll be much like today, Director. And just would like to remind folks who are on the phone. You are participating in tomorrow call,

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You were a craig patient with us, and,

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